2008 Democratic Primary:posted by: Political Pyro
May 28, 2008 at 3:56 am
And the Winner Is: Hillary Clinton
Regardless of the barrage of media attention Barack Obama has received calling him "the inevitable nominee" for the Democratic Party… here are ten reasons why I believe Hillary Clinton will actually come out on top, despite what you hear.
1. The call for Hillary Clinton to drop out: If Obama were the inevitable nominee, there would be no calls for Hillary to drop out. Remember Huckabee? The Republicans and the media allowed his continued "fight" for the nomination for one reason: He had no chance of winning. Only when the opposition fears you, do they pressure you to exit. Bill Clinton nailed it recently in South Dakota when he suggested Hillary had been treated worse than any other candidate in presidential history. Why Bill? They know she can win.
2. Barack the nominee: The past few days have given us dose of what Obama would be like if he were the actual nominee, and it isn’t pretty. His slip-ups have tended to increase, and he is looking more and more like a radical lefty under the constant barrage of Republican fire. Recently, he has flip-flopped on Iran, forgotten to mention the military during a Memorial Day commencement speech, and screwed up the facts concerning the liberation of Auschwitz. And that’s just this week. McGovern anyone?
3. The popular vote: No one can deny Hillary has gotten more votes than Obama. His argument that he is the actual popular vote winner only makes him look like a thief. Only when Florida and Michigan are conveniently discarded does Obama have the popular vote, and thanks to the superb timing of HBO’s new release, "Recount", an in-your-face reminder of the 2000 election is on everybody’s mind.
4. The Michelle Obama video: Is it true Michelle has been captured on video trashing "white America" for holding black people down? Who knows. What we do seem to know is that someone of her character just might be capable of saying such things. So much for unity. A heads up: Sean Hannity revealed on his radio program today that the Clinton campaign has been blowing up the phone lines trying to get a copy of what Sean apparently has. Finally he revealed this: he will release the tape at a time he believes will best serve his audience and the Republican Party. Not exactly a denial….
5. Republican admiration: WTF? It’s true. Watch a little Fox News. These guys are almost teary-eyed over the treatment Hillary has received over the past few months… I never thought I would see the day. With this new found love of Hillary, it would be very difficult for them to do a 180 and start trashing her again… without looking foolish.
6. Obamanazis: Thankfully, the RFK statement seems to have backfired on the Obama camp, and people are beginning to realize how vicious Obama has been all along. I have even heard calls for Keith Olbermann’s head (fingers crossed). Obama’s ridiculous attempts at defining what people can and cannot say about him is an eerie reminder of the Bush administration’s stranglehold on American thought during the 9/11 days. Disgusting.
7. Clinton/Obama: Her offer remains. Many notable Democrats have poo-pooed the idea of an Obama/Clinton ticket, including Nancy Pelosi. Michelle Obama would never allow it to happen either. So the "vote for Hillary and get Obama as well" proposal should still be inticing.
8. Typical white people: When a "presumptive nominee" loses two of the final states by 41% and 35%, people tend to grow doubts… Enough said.
9. Color-coded pantsuits: Ok, I admit. This one is filler. But it’s 5 o’clock in the morning, I’m delirious, and I needed a list of ten. Yet, as I was thinking, I remembered a cute Laura Ingraham comment about how Hillary can create a color-coded pantsuit alert system: "Uh-oh! It’s a blue pantsuit alert!" Now how fun would that be?
10. It’s the delegates, stupid: Yes, we all know by now that a delegate majority is what makes a candidate the nominee. What we seem to have forgotten, however, is that the superdelegates can vote their conscience, and we all know the only thing in a politician’s conscience: re-election. No one wants to pick a loser. Also, what we are learning is this: millions of people will be angry regardless of who the winner is. Why should black voters be more important than working class whites or women when it comes time to disappoint? The superdelegates have the following to consider, in order: "How can I win re-election?", "Who can win in November?", "Who have the people chosen?", and finally, "What total did our fundamentally idiotic delegate system decide?"
Of course only time will tell — May 31st will be our first real clue — but don’t be shocked in a few days if Michigan and Florida are quietly reinstated despite all the brainwashing of the past few months by the mainstream media… and we finally get to see justice served.
Here’s to wishful thinking.




We should Throw Out every Democrat in Every State & Congressional Office if Obama gets the Nomination.
Comment by ztormtra — May 28, 2008 @ 6:29 am
Excellent points. I think you really fished through the media hype of “inevitable”
Bravo.
I’ve personally decided not to hold any grudges and try to get the righties out of office, but all my “working class white friends” still say they will not vote Obama.
What to do?
Seems obvious.
Oh yeah, you also could have put the polling data that clearly shows her as a stronger candidate in the fall election. (Just look at Florida for example!)
Comment by Brian C. — May 28, 2008 @ 8:44 am
Last August, when the DNC Rules Committee voted to strip Florida (and Michigan, if it persisted in clinging to its date) of its delegates, the Clinton delegates on the committee backed those sanctions. All 12 Clinton supporters on the committee supported the penalties. (The only member of the committee to vote against them was an Obama supporter from Florida.) Harold Ickes, a committee member, leading Clinton strategist and acknowledged master of the political game, said, “This committee feels very strongly that the rules ought to be enforced.” Patty Solis Doyle, then Clinton’s campaign manager, further affirmed the decision. “We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process,” she said, referring to the four states that the committee authorized to hold the first contests. “And we believe the DNC’s rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role. Thus, we will be signing the pledge to adhere to the DNC-approved nominating calendar.”
Re your promotion of “Hillary’s Popular Vote Lead”, Harold Myerson - Washington Post sums up the situation FACTUALLY.
[***NEWSFLASH!!!!!!*** American voters are more important than party rules, regardless of who approved what and when. Sad you can’t see that. — PoliticalPyro]
Comment by patwal — May 28, 2008 @ 8:50 am
Did you just get a payoff from the Clinton campaign or what?
Comment by scott cook — May 28, 2008 @ 8:53 am
The Democratic Party chooses its nominee by delegates, not popular vote, not electoral votes.
Never in modern history has the party nominee been decided by popular votes.
Also, who made the decision to disallow Michigan and Florida’s votes? The DNC, which at the time, had a solid majority of Clinton supporters.
Is Ms. Clinton working for the Republican party? They could not do the damage that she is doing to the Democratic Party.
[***Now, Ray, don’t get excited. Delegates decide the nominee — that’s true. But nowhere in the beloved party manual does it say superdelegates must vote according to the pledged delegate winner. Especially, if he looks like a “loser” in the general election. They can actually vote for the popular vote winner, thus making Hillary the delegate winner as well. As far as disenfranchising voters in Michigan and Florida, who cares who made the call? Howard Dean’s draconian 100% penalty was entirely uncalled for. The Republicans only penalized the two states by 50%. Finally, what damage? Did Al Gore damage the party in 2000 by taking the election to court? I don’t think so. All talk of damage is just more intimidation meant to force Hillary out of the race. Sooooo overdramatic! –PoliticalPyro]
Comment by Ray — May 28, 2008 @ 9:22 am
You’ve nailed it. The Obamanazis and media attempt to portray him as the inevitable is doomed. Harold Ford Jr. for Hillary’s v.p.
[***You should make the jump to Fox News. Less gloom and doom over there! As for Harold Ford Jr. being Hillary’s V.P. choice… good thinking! That would be a nice slap in the face to Barack and Michelle. But still a little early to be going there just yet. –PoliticalPyro]
Comment by patric — May 28, 2008 @ 9:24 am
I’m from Toronto and the papers here are into the NAFTA/Obama adffair. The person linked to the affair has resigned. Read all about it in the Toronto Star. Obama fans need not bother.
Comment by Ofelia — May 28, 2008 @ 9:42 am
I watched Brazile state on CNN that she believes the superdelegates should go with the popular vote - otherwise she will resign. Can someone find a video of that interview?
[Damn! That’s right! We gotta wallpaper the internet with that! –PoliticalPyro]
Comment by Ofelia — May 28, 2008 @ 9:46 am
AS A MIDDLE AGED BLACK MALE MYSELF I KNOW THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS OBAMA CANT WIN. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS MORE INTERESTED IN MAKING HISTORY THAN WINNING ELECTIONS.I AM SOCIALLY A LIBERAL , BUT MORALLY A CONSERVATIVE WHO HAVE ALWAYS VOTED DEMOCRAT, BUT NOW AFTER THE WAY HILLARY HAS BEEN TREATED I AM DONE FOREVER WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. QUESTION IS WHERE DOES SOMEONE LIKE ME GO?
Comment by marvin — May 28, 2008 @ 9:47 am
Any ticket that has Obama on it I will vote against.
The great uniter along with his media cohorts have managed to divide the Democratic party. The split is so deep and the rift so wide that It cannot be repaired. I will vote for John McCain if Obama is the other choice. Unike Obama I put the honor of my country above my honor and above the honor of my party. Obama chose his Rev before his country until the rev said that Obama was doing what politicans do.
That says it all.
Comment by Lyn — May 28, 2008 @ 9:56 am
I didn’t leave the Democratic Party, it left me. Obama’s Democratic party won’t be the Democrats of yore, it will become the Radical Socialist party of America - it’s already well on its way. Maybe we can get the name back and have a true American populist party once again.
Comment by jack — May 28, 2008 @ 10:27 am
Remember that neither Edwards nor Obama competed in Michigan. It is opportunism of Hillary claim the votes of Michigan. If Obama had been campaigning in Florida, he had closed the difference in votes regarding Clinton, as happened in most states where she had great advantage in the polls. Her enormous selfishness is plunging the Democratic Party. Remember that she did not mind mention the assassination of Bobby Kennedy to justify arrive to June the primaries.
Hillary supports genocidal policies such as “to disappear Iran” and maintaining economic cruel wars like The White House maintain against the Cuban people.
[***Wait a minute. I see you received your talking points, but lets think about this. If Michigan is split 55-45 like the vote was received, then Obama would in fact be getting some of Edwards’ votes, as well as the other candidates who had been running. More than he deserves! Also, I think you might have a case had “uncommitted” come in around 10-20%, but a 45% return reveals an organized effort to get out the vote regardless of rules or names on the ballot.
As far as campaigning in Florida, what makes you think the result would have been any different than say, Pennsylvania or Ohio, where Obama outspent Hillary 2 or 3 times over?
Concerning Iran: I choose Hillary’s tough talk over Obama’s patty-cake any day. Those leaders are not exactly nice people. Israel is a stinking corpse? Nice glimpse into the “rational minds” of Iran’s current government.
Concerning Cuba: Did you see Michael Moore’s “Sicko”? Cubans seem to be doing a lot better than their neighbors, the Haitians. When the Castro Bros. surrender their 50-year-old death grip on democracy, I’m sure Cuba will be back in the loop. The choice is theirs. –PoliticalPyro]
Comment by Omar — May 28, 2008 @ 10:40 am
REMEMBER OBAMA RAN CAMPAIGN ADS IN FLORIDA ON CNN&MSNBC AND ALSO HE AND EDWARDS CAMPAIGN FOR THEIR SUPPORTERS TO VOTE UNCOMITTEDIN MICHIGAN SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE THAT IS ALSO CAMPAIGNINGIN. SO SHOULD HE BE PUNISHED FOR DOING SO. ? BUT I SURE AS USUAL THE MESSIAH WIL GET A PASS AS USUAL. A BLACKMAN WHO SUPPORTS HILLARY CLINTON AND WILL NEVER VOTE FOR BHO.
Comment by ROD RAYSON — May 28, 2008 @ 4:58 pm
I take umbrage with your comment in #10 that no one wants to pick a loser. The Democratic Party LOVES to pick losers. Here’s a recap: Hubert Humphrey, George McGovern (the loser whose candidacy is the reason we have super delegates; is it any wonder then that he would endorse a sure loser like Obama?), Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, John Kerry…it makes perfect sense for the Democratic Party to line up behind Vomit. They LOVE losers. Note the name missing from the list–the only 2 term Democrat since FDR–and ironically the man the Party seems hell bent on exorcising from their ranks; Bill Clinton. The Democratic Party is the party of Losers (why I became an Independent in December of 2000). Nominating HRC would buck the trend, and that just wouldn’t be right. Maybe we’ll get lucky and someone will find an antidote for the Vomit Kool-aid enema before August. Oh, and to the kool-aid drinker who says the popular vote doesn’t matter; tell me what happened to the last two candidates in the modern era who got the nomination without winning the popular vote in the primaries? Allow me to answer that for you. Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern got their asses handed to them in the general election. Have a nice day!
[*** “line up behind Vomit”? Shtuey, you’re a poet! –PoliticalPyro]
Comment by Shtuey — May 28, 2008 @ 8:25 pm
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[*** You must be an Obama supporter…. that’s too bad. –PoliticalPyro]
Comment by Glenn — May 28, 2008 @ 11:12 pm
Obama’s party isn’t socialist: it’s a coalition of wimpy elitists, sleazy big-government machine Dems from Chicago and the East Coast, and nutjob reactionaries on the self-marginalized left. In short it’s a coalition of all those divisive Democrats who have utter contempt not just for empowered Republicans but for average moderate Americans (also known as: the people).
This is not a new coalition; it’s the McGovern coalition, and the Dukakis coalition. Gore and Kerry had some of that, but at least they seemed to want to include the great mass of Americans who Bill Clinton served; not so this new vicious Obama culture, you’re either with them or against them it seems.
Hillary’s a hero for standing her ground politically and ideologically. She’s no opportunistic flip-flopper; look at her American Dream Initiative, her complete voting record on the Senate floor, her message from the start of the campaign. Bravo for those who still believe!
I join those Democrats who have to good sense to declare they will never vote for Barack Obama or the contempt of everyday people that his candidacy increasingly represents.
Oh, one minor point, to Shtuey #11: Humphrey actually lost by a modest margin (about 500,000 votes). McGovern (who blamed everyone for not nominating him) then pushed to change the Dem’s nomination rules, and the party dumped its winner-take-all delegate-awarding process (which would have already given the nomination to Clinton this year) and as a result lefty McGovern got the nomination in 72… and lost by about 17 million votes to Nixon, in a year every bit as anti-war as this one. Good luck, Obama-nation!
Comment by Chris Corbell — May 28, 2008 @ 11:37 pm
Clear, cogent list of why HRC will win. My heart is gearing up to rejoice on that triumphant day!
Comment by Uma — May 29, 2008 @ 4:11 am