Media Firestorm:posted by: Political Pyro
May 23, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Strange times indeed…
From Rush Limbaugh: "…Look, it’s real simple. Obama is cruising to becoming an illegitimate nominee of the Democrat Party, because every vote will not have been counted. Hillary’s right. He would be the illegitimate nominee. I mean, look, this is the same party, ladies and gentlemen, that complains about voter IDs. I mean what a joke. Voter IDs, now they’re disenfranchising millions of voters, minority voters especially, because the state parties didn’t bow to the DNC and Howard "George Wallace" Dean. How can they nominate anybody if the guy can only win by having votes not count? I mean, that would not only taint Obama as illegitimate, it would destroy their entire ability to go back and use Florida 2000 as an attack against Republicans. …"
Her way to the nomination is to count a place where he gets 0 votes? then Iowa and other cacaus states do not count since they don’t keep a vote tally so who’s doing anything to get their way no matter what the voters think? not to mention the people who stayed home in MI and FL because they were told it won’t count….you people keep listening to what your told and be minions instead of thinking for yourselves.
***[No, Maya, you aren’t paying attention. All votes must be counted. Florida produced a record turnout, so arguing that people stayed home is wrong. It’s troublesome to hear that Americans are willing to throw out votes in order for their candidate to win. That is Limbaugh’s point. — Political Pyro]
Comment by Maya — May 23, 2008 @ 7:16 pm
She wants to count his votes and her votes in FL and Michigan. The uncommitted voters would probably go to him - look it is his fault for pulling his name of the ballot. That is not her fault. It is the DNC’s fault for ignoring 2 of the most important states in an election. Hillary was smart enough to keep her name on the ballot and to know the rules which state that the delegates may be seated if the Rules Committee (meets May 31st) overturn the previous decision. She actually knows the rules better than Obama - you can’t say that she is trying to change the rules last minute because that is the way it has been set up all this time. The caucus states are being counted - and Hillary is winning the popular vote when you count every state/territory that has had a primary or caucus. Personally, I think caucuses have a lot of voter fraud - look at Texas - Obama won the caucus but Hillary won the primary by 200,000 votes. Also, Obama won in the Washington caucus by a decisive manner, but the primary in Washington state had a margin half of the caucus. It is either voter fraud or young people (which I am 20 yrs. old) voting in caucuses. But to be fair, primaries are much more representative of an election (we don’t have caucuses in the general election). Also, primaries have much older people in them, older people are the Most Reliable voting bloc whereas younger people are the Least Reliable (they don’t always show up). Either way, after this nomination process, I vote for no more caucuses, no more super delegates, just plain and simple primaries and lets be finished by April so this thing isn’t dragged out as much.
Comment by Harrison Hnry Tarry — May 23, 2008 @ 8:33 pm
Let me get the numbers for you from the Washington caucus and primary to prove my point: Obama won the caucus by 37% and he won the primary by only 5%. I said the margin was cut in half, sorry it was much more. But it proves my point further about caucuses not representing the true opinion of the american public. Also look up the voter fraud that happened in Texas El Paso. Hillary won El Paso huge in the primary but lost El Paso huge in the caucus - just doesn’t add up to me. (sorry for the spelling)
Comment by Harrison Hnry Tarry — May 23, 2008 @ 9:15 pm